Hello, everyone! Welcome to Discover Health podcast. I’m Dr. Trish Murray – physician, best-selling author, and Health Catalyst Speaker. I am so excited to have Dr. Melina Roberts today who is a naturopathic doctor. We’ll be talking about biological medicine and cancer. Hello, Dr. Roberts! How are you today?

I’m doing great, yeah. It’s so great to be here. Thank you so much for having me!

Oh, it’s awesome to have you on! What we’re going to do, Melina, or Dr. Roberts, is I’m going to read your bio and then we’ll get right into the questions. Folks, here’s Dr. Roberts’ background.

Dr. Melina Roberts a naturopathic doctor, author of Building a Healthy Child, and founder and clinic director of Advanced Naturopathic Medical Centre in Calgary, Canada. She is recognized as one of the top biological practitioners in North America and is a lecturer for the Paracelsus Academy and Biomed International. She is a leading authority in the field of naturopathic medicine, specializing in biological medicine and effectively treating digestive issues, chronic disease, and cancer. Dr. Roberts is a graduate of the University of Waterloo and the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine in Toronto. She did a two-year post-graduate study in biological medicine with Paracelsus Academy in Switzerland.

Wow! That’s a pretty impressive background, Dr. Roberts.

Thank you!

Yeah! So, tell us. One of the first questions I always ask all of my guests is – how did you come to practice medicine the way you are now or to be of service the way you are now?

I think it goes back to my childhood of being a kid who had really bad allergies and eczema. I’d break out in rashes to everything and I would itch my skin until it would bleed. I kind of thought that was just the way life was and it was something I’d just have to learn to live with. When I was about thirteen, a family friend said to my parents, “You should try taking her to see a naturopathic doctor.” At that point in time, it was way back, and we had no idea what naturopathic medicine was and if it could ever help me. We went in predominantly open-minded and I went and saw this doctor and really within a short period of time all of my allergies and eczema all cleared up. It really gave me some initial insights into realizing that the body had that ability to heal itself.

Kind of fast-forward a bit, I decided to go into naturopathic medicine so that I could have that similar effect on people’s lives as that naturopathic doctor had on my life. As I was going through school, my dad was diagnosed with cancer in my second year at the naturopathic college. I started doing a ton of research into natural therapies to treating cancer. Unfortunately, I didn’t know enough at that time. I was just a second-year student and I just didn’t know enough. Unfortunately, my dad passed away nine months later. That starting of research into it and seeing that there actually were really viable options in terms of cancer therapies that were published in scientific journals and that weren’t being utilized and that there were clinics around the world that were treating cancer successfully. After I graduated, that’s what I just starting researching. One of the clinics I first joined when I finished the naturopathic college was a clinic that I heard they were having great success with treating cancer. It actually happened to be a biological medicine clinic. The doctor who I was working with there, he had done his training with a doc named Dr. Thomas Rau in Switzerland. I was like, okay, well I need to go do this training too. So, I did the training with the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and learned all about biological medicine and that kind of set the direction in terms of how I treat today.

That’s an amazing story. Every time I ask that question, it’s my favorite question because it personalizes each of us as practitioners and helps everyone understand why we’re passionate about what we do.

Yeah.

And that’s why people want to come and see us because we get it!

Yes, exactly. We’ve been there!

Exactly! And have lived the pains and the benefits of all of this.

Yes, exactly.

So, Melina get into biological medicine and help people understand. What exactly is biological medicine?

So, it’s not super different from naturopathic medicine or functional medicine but it is just a different approach in terms of it originated in Europe as a natural therapy approach to treating all different kinds of health issues. The roots of it are very similar to naturopathic medicine and functional medicine in that it’s based on the understanding that the body has the ability to heal itself. Where it differs is in that it really focuses on two main things which are terrain and the body’s ability to self-regulate and the adaptability of the body. Going through the naturopathic college I never even heard of the concept of terrain, but the terrain is the area that the cells live in.

In order for our cells to be healthy, they need a healthy environment to live in.Click To Tweet The analogy I love to use is that if you have a plant and that plant is unhealthy, you don’t manipulate anything about the plant, you change the soil that that plant is in. If you change that soil to a healthy soil, then that plant will grow and be healthy. So, that is definitely one of the major concepts in terms of terrain.

The second concept is the idea of adaptability and self-regulation mechanisms. Every cell, every system, every organ in our body has this self-regulating mechanism. The analogy I like to use, because it’s so hard to explain self-regulation, is the one that if your body is in a hot environment then we will sweat. That’s how our body’s regulating itself.

If our body is in a cold environment, then we shiver. This is how our body just always is adapting and changing to changes in its environment. All of our cells need to be able to do this.Click To Tweet This is the concept of self-regulation and if our body can self-regulate well, then our body is healthy. What can happen is that we can have these different stressors on our body. I call it six stressors. It can be food sensitivities, immune challenges, heavy metals, environmental toxins, everything emotional, everything physical. Those stressors can affect how the body is self-regulating.
What we’re trying to do is we’re trying to do is identify those stressors, remove those stressors, help the body to self-regulate, and then improve the function of the organ systems that have been affected from those stressors.Click To TweetThose are kind of the essence of how biological medicine works. It’s terrain and self-regulation.

As you say, it’s not so different from functional medicine or naturopathic medicine.

No.

In any of our world’s what we’re trying to help people to understand is the concept of epigenetics and the idea that your environment and your terrain, what you’re living in in terms of stress, food, medications, toxins, and all of these things create your terrain, create your world in which your cells live. If that’s toxic and high in inflammation and immune system dysfunction or adrenal dysfunction or whatever concept we’re going to talk about then the cells are not going to function optimally.

Exactly.

And they are not going to self-regulate optimally.

Exactly.

It’s interesting just the different systemic discussion or language that’s used but yet the concepts are similar.

Yeah.

That’s awesome! So, now you focus a lot with folks, as you brought up with your experience, on cancer. Is that correct?

Yes.

Tell us, how do you view cancer?

So, I think that in terms of the conventional system – the conventional system really views cancer as that final product in terms of tumors, right? That solid mass. In terms of cancer, there is a process within the body that has to happen in order for those cancer cells to be able to grow. What we’re really looking at is we’re looking at that process in the body that allowed that tumor to be able to grow.

No matter which approach people choose in terms of treating that tumor, you have to change that process that allowed that cancer cell to grow.Click To TweetI describe it as three main things in that process that would allow those cancer cells to grow. One of them is that terrain. That terrain has to be in a more acidic environment, a more inflammatory environment in order for those cancer cells to be able to grow. Our immune system would have to be depleted in order for those cancer cells to grow. And the other one is that the organs of detoxification (the organs that move toxic loads out of the body) would not be functioning optimally. That means that toxic loads would actually be staying within our body. That also ends up being the three things that we really focus on in terms of all cancer care.
We’re working on changing that terrain. We’re working on improving that immune system. Then we’re also working on improving the detoxification pathways, ensuring that these detoxification pathways are open and able to effectively move toxic loads out.Click To Tweet

The one thing I’ve been more intrigued about, I would never say that up until now in my career I’ve been a cancer specialist. I’m not. I’m into autoimmune and pain, more emotional things like anxiety. That’s my forte. I’ve taken much more interest in cancer lately and have been doing a lot more reading on it. The one question I have for you today or to anyone that does focus on either biological, functional, naturopathic medicine and cancer or natural ways to treat cancer would be, for example, I had a patient come in today. She has been diagnosed now with not one, not two, but three masses (two in the right breast and one in the left breast). Now she’s faced with decisions and what traditional medicine is presenting her with and what natural medicine she would rather follow. Okay, someone comes in and they have a mass, like you say a tumor.

Yeah.

In your world, what do you recommend to the folks to do with that mass as it is right now? Another patient of mine has a rectal mass.

Yeah.

Should it be removed and then deal with things from the biological or functional or whatever terminology we want to use? Or do you treat it from a natural perspective and the immune system can still eradicate that mass? Do you see my point here?

I see your question. Yeah, they end up being really tough questions. What I do with my patients is I just present them with options. I explain and explain as much as I can in terms of like what we can offer and what their options are. I think that people just get really scared. They get scared into their decision making and I don’t think that we should be making decisions out of fear. We should be making decisions from a knowledgeable place. Listening to a podcast like this before you have to make those decisions can be very helpful. I think that if someone hasn’t even thought of what to do prior to, then it makes that decision really challenging. I have patients who are really on all spectrums. As you know, I have patients who decide to get the mass surgically removed and then what we do is we support their systems through the surgery. We do different IV therapies and different nutritionals for healing the gut. No matter what we’re doing, we’re always working on changing up that process that allowed those cancer cells to grow. Then I also have patients who don’t want to go with the conventional route, and they want to completely do it alternatively, with alternative medicine is what it can be called!

Right!

They want to go completely with our approach and then we do an intensive plan. We will be primarily working on that process that allowed those cancer cells to grow, but then we also have different therapies like local hyperthermia. Local hyperthermia is like a deep heat therapy that helps to break down those tumor cells. Again, no matter which way you use to break down those tumor cells, whether you use chemo or radiation, or you use local hyperthermia, you have to make sure that the organs of detoxification are open are able to effectively move toxic loads out. If you’re not doing that kind of support, people are just going to get sicker. Then we actually see that okay yes, we’ve removed some tumor, but we haven’t healed up the gut, we haven’t improved immune system, we haven’t improved organs of detoxification. If we haven’t done all of that ground work then that’s when you see that people get tumors removed but then years down the line they have some sort of recurrence of tumors, typically elsewhere in the body but that’s because you haven’t changed that process in the body.

Oh, so true. Someone will come in, for example, whatever their chronic disease might be.

Yeah.

You recommend an elimination diet or a cleanse, but sometimes they’re not healthy enough for that yet.

Yeah, exactly.

So, then you have to take some supplements, change their diet. For example, in my world I recommend what I call the Rainbow Diet as a foundational diet. It starts to get phytonutrients into people and heal the gut without necessarily going into a full elimination or detox.

Yeah!

Then when their health is improving and they’re feeling better and their energy is better…then we even have a questionnaire of course that they can score and when their score is less than 100 then they can consider doing a detox. I think it’s on the same role as what you’re talking about right now.

Yeah, exactly! When I say “detox” I know that’s a broad term that we use, but because sometimes it’s just gently trying to get that liver to work a lot better. Yeah. We’re not doing aggressive cleanses if someone is coming in with a cancer diagnosis. Yeah, their system is typically not strong enough. We just have to get proper nutrients in and healing the gut and balancing out that microbiome.

Right. So, what kinds of testing do you do then? A cancer patient comes to you and they’re looking for some help with natural, integrative, alternative (whatever word people want to use) and they’re looking for your approach. How would your workup be different than the traditional model or other models?

Yeah, so I will typically call my testing some functional testing as well but it’s a little bit different in that we’re not sending anything away. We do a lot of in-house testing. One of the tests that we do is called dark-field microscopy. It’s a prick of the fingertip and we look at live blood cells underneath the microscope. We’re actually looking at the body’s internal terrain. We’re looking and seeing are those cells stuck together or are they nicely spaced out? We see how well they’re absorbing the nutrients from the foods they’re eating. We see if they’re showing signs of that leaky gut picture where we’re seeing some food particles showing up in the bloodstream. We get to look at the white blood cells. We get an idea of what’s going on with their immune system. Not just a quantitative test which people will get in terms of getting their bloodwork done, but we actually get to look at the quality of their blood cells. How active and how robust are those white blood cells? This gives me a lot of information about terrain. That’s one test that we run.

Another test that we run is called a whole-body thermography. It’s a full body scan of the head including the teeth, the neck, the breasts, the abdomen which will include all the vital organs, and back which will include the kidneys. We go for 119 points with a really sensitive temperature gauge on all of those 119 points. Then what we do is we give the body stress. That stress is simply all of those points being exposed to a certain temperature for ten minutes. Then we re-check those points. What should happen is that all of those points should be able to regulate themselves. If they can regulate themselves then those tissues can heal themselves. If they can’t regulate themselves then we know that there’s a blockage in that system. Then we know that we need to focus our attention on that system of the body. That helps to give me an overall idea of the organ systems and the regulation of all the different organs in the body.

Then the other test that we run in the clinic is something called heart rate variability. Heart rate variability, what it’s doing is it’s assessing the autonomic nervous system. That’s the part of your nervous system that runs in the background. We don’t consciously control it. There’s two parts of that nervous system. There is your stress state – your run away from a tiger part of your nervous system. The other part of that nervous system is your rest, digest, and repair. We get to see how stressed is the person, how well can the body heal itself, and how are they in relationship to each other. Another challenge can be is that if a person’s too high in a stressed state then a person can’t properly heal themselves. Sometimes these can be the challenges of why people aren’t properly healing. This is really looking at that terrain and then we’re looking at that regulatory part of the nervous system. Those are some of the main tests that we run. We might run some further testing that you’d be more familiar with in terms of that functional medicine, but that’s definitely our starting point to see what’s going on in terms of their systems.

That’s really interesting to hear these different modalities used particularly in the cancer oncology world. Of course, thermography I have someone come to my office quarterly and do breast screenings for people.

Oh, okay. Yeah!

Looking for concerns. Of course, thermography can possibly show concerns for a tumor earlier than even mammography can.

Yes.

I’ve used it for diagnostic or screening, I should say.

Yeah, we have to be careful with the word “diagnostic!”

Yeah – screening. The only way to really diagnose tissue is to get the tissue and to look into things further.

Exactly.

By a pathologist. But also, heart rate variability we use in my world with folks with anxiety.

Okay, yeah!

Or adrenal dysfunction.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah! Then looking at the cells themselves. That’s very intriguing to see the white blood cells and the different cells in the microscopy you’re referring to.

Yeah.

It’s giving you sort of a general assessment of the person’s body and cell functions.

Yeah, exactly.

Huh, interesting. Let people understand, thermography. Just talk a little bit about what thermography is truly doing for folks. It’s looking at the heat of the body and it’s an imaging. Kind of go into that so they understand what that is.

Yeah, so with that really sensitive temperature gauge it penetrates a little bit deeper than skin level to get that idea of temperature. What I’m doing is a regulated thermography, which probably is a little bit different from the one you bring into your office which I think and assume is the one that takes a picture.

Yeah.

Yeah, which still has lots of value in it for sure. We’re doing a whole-body scan. It’s really based on those dermatomes. Dermatomes are nerves that will go through organs and then they also have a root that will go through the skin. Through those dermatomes and that skin layer, we’re able to get an idea just from how the skin is regulating how the organ internally is regulating through those dermatome layers. We get that feedback loop of when we give that body a stress even at that skin layer, is that temperature able to regulate itself or is there a blockage? Is it not regulating the way it should be? From that regulation, we’re actually able to get a picture of are there different, basically, hot spots in the body or is there some dysregulation happening? It just gives us so much information about what’s going on without having to be invasive.

Yeah, there’s the concept of what’s called that viscerosomatic reflex.

Yes!

The idea is our organs are sending sensory messages to the brain on a regular basis. Actually, the sensory messaging from many organs to the brain is higher or more…there are more nerves sending that sensory message to the brain than there are going from the brain to the organ, actually.

Okay, yeah.

But then it does spill over into our soma, meaning into the body and the skin and things like that.

Yeah, yeah.

Then it spills over into the skin which is what you’re looking at with the thermography which is what you’re saying.

Yeah, exactly.

Very interesting. Alright. With these different tests then that helps you determine what exactly summary do you get from these tests for the patient to understand their process?

Yeah, so what’s cool with these tests is that because they’re in-house we can actually get those results right away. With that dark-field microscopy as I’m looking at it I have it up on a big screen and the patient gets to see what their blood looks like right away. I can go through those results with them as soon as they do the test. That’s the same with the thermography. I get the test within minutes of completing the tests. I can go through those results and we can figure out…and then what I do is based on the results of all of those tests and then plus what the information we gather from their initial consult and typically they are already coming in with a diagnosis and they’ve already gone through a bunch of bloodwork and a bunch of diagnostic tests that they’ll bring in to me. I put all of that information together and then from there we can come up with a plan. A lot of people are wanting to do my intensive cancer program. That can really range. My primary thing that I always work on is changing up the diet, cleaning up the diet. To me, that is the basics, right? They have to be cleaning up the diet. I’ve had patients who are like, “Well, can I just do all the treatments? The diet is too hard?” I actually won’t take them on as a patient because we won’t get the results that I want to be getting if they don’t change the diet. That’s foundational. From there, I’ll put together a treatment plan in terms of supplements, right? Which can include nutritionals and botanicals and drainage remedies just depending on what their needs are. Then we also have some other more intensive therapies which you guys may offer as well as far as high-dose vitamin C IVs, chelation IVs. We do ozone therapy and UBI therapy. We have the local hyperthermia. We have some whole-body hyperthermia as well. We basically put people into basically a fever state (we know that cancer cells don’t like heat) and in that fever state it helps to activate your whole immune system so that your body will start to fight off anything that shouldn’t be there like cancer cells. We have a local hyperthermia in our clinic. We have lots of different tools in our tool kit!

You can either put someone into a whole hyperthermia going to, like you say, inducing a fever state like a sauna or something.

Yeah.

Is that kind of what it’s like?

Yeah, exactly. That’s what it’s like and we just have a rectal thermometer. We are monitoring their temperature. We keep them in there until they reach that temperature and then we try to hold them at that fever state for a period of time. Usually thirty to sixty minutes or as long as people can tolerate because it is quite uncomfortable. We’re just monitoring them throughout and then they’re all done!

Yeah. How does the local hyperthermia work?

Local is sort of like a little wand sort of thing. Like an ultrasound kind of wand that we’ll use. It just penetrates between two electrodes. There’s a back-pad electrode and then this little wand and the frequency and that heat will go quite deep. It’ll go between those two electrodes. It’s something that we have to have someone doing, it’s not that they’re sitting in a machine. We actually have a technician who will run that therapy. We’re able to go over those solid masses to help to break down those solid masses.

And you mentioned UBI.

Yeah! I don’t know if you’ve heard of that but it’s ultraviolet blood irradiation. What we’re doing is we actually take out some blood, we mix it in with some saline, and then we give all of that blood back to a patient but before we give it back to them it runs under some UV lights. What the UV lights are helping to do is it’s an oxygen therapy, so it helps to oxygenate the blood. Cancer cells don’t like oxygen, so it helps to oxygenate the system. The UV light helps to kill off anything that shouldn’t be there, and it helps to improve circulation overall. That’s what the UBI is helping to do. We typically will pair the UBI with an ozone therapy. Again, we will take some blood out, mix it with some saline, we’ll add some ozone to the bag, and then we’ll put that through the patient. We call it an UBI-ozone IV in our clinic.

With my reading lately around tumors, cancer, and how they produce and what’s going on they talk a lot in most of the theories I’ve been noticing about it’s almost like cancers will grow when there’s no oxygen and when it becomes like a fermenting anti-oxygen environment.

Yeah.

Then also, a big thing that I keep reading and reading about is digestive enzymes.

Yeah.

And the idea that digestive enzymes help to optimize oxygenation, optimize nutrient utilization, and absorption. The idea that terrain and making sure we have the main points of life: oxygen and nutrients!

Yeah!

Correct?

Yes, for sure in terms of digestion those enzymes are helpful. There’s also something called proteolytic enzymes.

Proteolytic enzymes if you take them with meals, they help to break down the food you’re eating, but if you actually take them away from meals, they help to break down inflammatory factors including cancer cells.Click To Tweet So, high doses of proteolytic enzymes away from food can actually be very beneficial. There are a lot of clinics out there that just do the proteolytic enzymes. They do some diet changes and then the do the high amounts of proteolytic enzymes. That’s another therapy that I will use with my patients. I like to stack a whole bunch of therapies together for best results!

How are the proteolytic enzymes from a typical digestive enzyme? Are they specifically focusing on protein enzymes?

Yes! Basically, they’re just highly concentrated digestive enzymes.

Okay.

If you took it with your food, they kind of just would be an expensive digestive enzyme because they are so highly concentrated.

I see.

Yeah.

Okay. With this concept, sometimes with digestive enzymes you would include hydrochloric acid (HCl) and betaine where you’re increasing stomach acid to break down the proteins.

Yeah.

Is that part of this?

No, you wouldn’t have to. You wouldn’t have to because you’re not trying to improve the digestive process. You’re trying to actually get to more of a systemic level where you’re breaking down more of those inflammatory factors.

And of course, you’re taking these on an empty stomach away from foods so you wouldn’t necessarily want your stomach acid to be increased.

Yeah.

That would make sense. Alright! What does the process look like for someone coming to see you and length of time and how the process works in the different treatment modalities?

Yeah, so typically a lot of patients will come for an extended period of time. They will come for two weeks or three weeks and really, we’re just trying to kickstart their system in the right direction. They will start off, you know, with that initial testing and the initial consult where we will map out their plan for them. Then if they’re coming for that chunk of time then we have them coming in daily for treatments. Usually it’s daily treatments and they’re getting treatments all day long with different IVs and the local hyperthermia and the whole-body hyperthermia. We have some other modalities like pulsed electromagnetic fields, so we run those and then we also do mistletoe injections. There’s lots going on!

Yeah! Speak a moment about pulsed electromagnetic frequencies. What are they and how do they apply in the oncology world?

Yeah, so really, I think everyone can benefit from pulsed electromagnetic fields. I think they’re part of our earth. These pulsed electromagnetic fields are naturally part of the earth in that we would naturally get them if we were more connected with the earth on a regular basis. You know, in our western world we rarely actually get good connection with the earth. The concept behind it is that all of our cells are like compacters; they hold energy. Over time what happens is that they start to decrease the amount of energy in those cells. The voltage in those cells starts to decrease. As that voltage decreases, that’s why we start to see a disease in pathology and cancer. What the pulsed electromagnetic fields help to do is it helps to charge those cells and increase the voltage in all of the cells in the body which will increase the health of every cell in our body. The analogy I like to use for describing that is that your cellphone also holds a charge. Over time your cellphone will lose its charge and what you have to do is you have to plug in that cellphone and start charging that cellphone for that cellphone to start working. That’s what we need to do with all of our cells in our body. We need to increase that charge.

In the pulsed electromagnetic field (PEMF), people can buy these mats that they lay on and use them at home.

Yeah, for sure.

What frequency, what hertz would you say is the range that is best?

I don’t really know exactly the exact numbers of the hertz to tell you the truth, off the top of my head. But I know that there’s the low frequency ones and I think that they would be beneficial for people to be doing on a daily basis who don’t necessarily have anything chronic going on. If we have some time. The challenge with a lot of cancer patients is we don’t have the luxury of time, right? We have to start changing their system as quickly as possible. That’s why the one I have in my clinic is a high voltage one and so we get people on there and we start to charge their system so much quicker. The mat will over time you’ll start to get that charge, but this one will start to charge the system quicker. It’s just a matter of time, right? I’d say that they are both effective, it’s just we’ll get results faster with one over the other.

So, do people come to see you from all over and they come for a set amount of time and then maybe they go home and then maybe they come back? What does it look like?

Yeah, in a lot of cases people are coming from all over and they’re coming for kind of that two or three weeks. Then they might come back. Depending on how sick they are, they might come back six months later, or they might come back a year later. It depends on what kind of care they’re getting when they are at home. Sometimes people are coming from small towns and they just don’t have access to all these different therapies. Sometimes if in their hometown they can get someone to do high dose vitamin C IVs to help maintain them through those can be beneficial. We have those and then we do have some local people that we treat here in Calgary too!

Right. Right, of course! What types of results are you getting? Of course, that’s what everybody wants to know.

Yeah.

You talk about all these wonderful therapies, but do they work? What results do you see with these?

Yeah. I think I get to sit in from a very nice vantage point and probably don’t see the typical people that people see in oncology because

I get to see the patients who are really self-motivated in order to make those changes. They are willing to do the work and be really proactive in their health.Click To Tweet I get to see some really amazing results. I also think that the people who do the best are the ones who truly believe in what they’re doing. I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily the people who just completely do intensive alternative therapies or the people who do part conventional therapy and part alternative medicine. I see success in both. I think it has to be whatever you believe is going to work the best for you and then let’s go in and let’s do this at 100%. That’s who I find, sometimes if it’s just like a family member who says, “I think you should go to this clinic.” It has to be the person who has done the research and knows that this is the right thing for them. Those are the ones who I get the best success rates with. I think that I kind of said that a lucky point in that I get to see awesome success stories.

I couldn’t underscore what you just said anymore. The idea that no matter what someone’s chronic problem is, whether it’s oncology and cancer or whether it’s pain or emotional things or autoimmune disease. If someone believes in the therapy, is self-motivated, and whole-heartedly into the treatment and they believe it’s going to work then you can call that the idea that it’s just the mind. Folks, mind over body is so important!

Yeah.

All of the cells of the body are the community and they’re going to come along with the belief!

Yeah.

Talking about the terrain and the self-regulation.

Yeah.

It all starts with our consciousness. It all starts with our being. It all starts with our beliefs. If you believe in it, then it’s probably going to work for the most part. That’s awesome!

Yeah, I believe in that mental/emotional piece too. I’ll work with my patients in terms of doing visualizations and making sure that they visualize themselves as healing and seeing their body as strong and healthy. Saying mantras, saying, “my body has everything it needs in order to heal.” We really get them into a good healing phase. We’re not just working with the physical body here. There is that mental/emotional piece too, and I strongly believe that that’s a huge part of the healing process.

Absolutely. This has been awesome, Dr. Roberts. How do people get in touch with you? How do they find you and look into this?

The best way to reach me or to see what we do is our website which is advancednaturopathic.com. One of the places I hang out the most in terms of social media would be my Instagram page which is @drmelinaroberts. I’d say those are the two best places to find me.

Awesome! Melina, one of the last questions I always love to ask my guests as well to end with is – if you had to pick one thing what would you say is the number one secret to living a healthy life?

I’m a strong believer in that it all comes down to gut health. If we improve our gut health that we will all be healthier people. That’s everything from cleaning up the foods we’re eating, balancing out that microbiome, healing up the lining of our digestive tract, and I think that health starts in the gut. No matter what health issue you have you’ve got to work on making sure that your gut health is number one.

Awesome! Thank you so much. This has been Biological Medicine and Cancer with Dr. Melina Roberts. Melina, thank you so much for coming on. This has been amazing! We’ll have to have you come on another time and talk about one or two of these different therapies in more detail. People need to know. I don’t think enough people know about these options as natural treatments for cancer. Thank you so much!

Thank you so much, this has been great. Thanks!

 

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